How to Leave the Destiny Cult
If you are considering leaving DGG, this article is for you.
In 2023, I published “The Destiny Report,” a deep dive into the platform abuse by the livestreamer Destiny and his community, DGG.
This follow-up article is for DGGers who want to leave, but find separation difficult because they enjoy the content, have friends in the community, or feel attached to Destiny.
My goal is to help you sort out your criticisms of Destiny without him or other DGGers influencing your opinion.
I will also share my own thoughts after two years of reflection (in fewer than 108,000 words this time). My general position is that Destiny is a psychopathic narcissist, DGG is a cult, and it’s best you leave.
Premises
Here are my assumptions about you:
You look to Destiny for insight about the world around you.
Destiny influences your perception not only of political issues but also of his professional and personal relationships.
Destiny has been dishonest about his behavior to a degree that makes you uncomfortable.
The idea of losing Destiny as a trusted thought leader or entertainer is painful.
The combination of the above is disorienting: the guy who tells you how to see through bullshit has been actively deceiving you.
If the above is true, you are likely to perceive this essay as rife with errors and lies, so let’s just accept that this is going to be a bumpy ride.
Promises
I promise you that the following statements are true:
In November 2022, I had my own jarring realization that Destiny is highly manipulative.
My dominant feeling towards Destiny is fear, not hatred. Next is guilt, for my role in enabling his abuse.
I don’t want your money or for you to join my cult. I am trying to help you escape.
Positions
These are the arguments I will make:
DGG is a cult.
Destiny is abusive and mentally ill.
DGG has internalized Destiny’s narcissism.
Destiny has not and will not change.
It’s unethical and unhealthy to consume Destiny’s content.
This will be difficult to hear.
Having interacted with hundreds of DGGers, I am aware of your intense loyalty to Destiny, your sense of responsibility for his well-being, and your willingness to go to great lengths to defend him. You may not ascribe these qualities to yourself, but surely you know a DGGer who earns the “skinwalker” pejorative.
When a skinwalker loses a debate in which they’re defending Destiny, they mentally shut down. It’s tempting to mock them, but the truth is that we all feel some level of discomfort when someone we admire is criticized. For DGGers, that discomfort is extreme.
Destiny is in trouble. He might come out of this unscathed, but he may also end up facing serious legal issues. I say this to point out that you may not have much of a choice in letting go of your image of Destiny. It might rapidly fall apart in the coming months, and you should be prepared for that.
Many of you are trapped in this moment of uncertainty, as no amount of mental gymnastics can realistically excuse Destiny’s behavior with women, yet you also can’t tolerate thinking about him negatively.
My goal here is to help free you from that trap, but I recognize that an essay is not going to do much on its own. You may want to discuss this with a therapist, a non-DGGer friend, or even have ChatGPT read this essay and act as a sounding board.
(I’ve created a custom GPT for this purpose if you want to try it out. Your chats are private to your own account, I won’t be able to see them: DGG Deprogrammer 9000)
The New Allegations Are Not Surprising
In January, we found out that Destiny has non-consensually distributed porn of himself with various partners, some of which may have been secretly recorded.
In response to the allegations, Destiny issued a bizarre statement in which he blamed the leaks on the 19-year-old girl with whom he shared the porn, painted himself as a victim, smeared his accuser as unstable, and insinuated her friend and legal advisor pushed her to sue Destiny because he “rejected [the advisor’s] romantic advances earlier in the year.”
The statement did not acknowledge the fact that he distributed revenge porn (ostensibly the reason for the statement in the first place).
Nearly all of Destiny’s allies have cut ties with him.
Save for an unwieldy megathread, DGGers are not permitted to discuss the allegations on r/Destiny.
I have heard from many of you in private, and my sense is that you are in shock. Not only is Destiny’s behavior reprehensible on its own, but the revelations seem to cast his entire character in an ugly new light. Long-accepted excuses for his inappropriate conduct no longer hold water, and you’re dealing with critical thoughts you’d dismissed over the years.
I want you to consider that your lowered opinion of Destiny’s character is primarily not the result of new information, but rather new framing around information you already had.
It was already public knowledge that Destiny has:
Leaked nudes.
Blackmailed someone with a threat to leak nudes.
Doxxed someone for calling him sexually abusive.
Secretly recorded conversations.
Had sex with many young women and humiliated them on stream. (You may have even participated in this.)
Non-consensually groped women on camera.
Told a man to talk to his stream chat alone while he audibly had sex with his girlfriend in the next room.
Bragged about being a sociopath and a liar.
Planned to kill a teenager and rationalized it as self-defense.
Choked an intimate partner and justified it as self-defense.
Cheated on multiple women.
Told vulnerable people to kill themselves.
If you’re a DGGer, seeing the above list probably makes you want to boil over with rationalizations and talking points. Even if you’re critical of Destiny’s recent behavior, you may find it difficult to actually read and absorb every item on this list.
It’s a good idea to take a moment and introspect about this. Why does having negative thoughts about Destiny make you uncomfortable?
And I don’t mean the DGG-approved criticisms, like “Destiny is a gooner,” “Destiny is a dumb fuck,” “Destiny is a degenerate.” I mean forbidden criticisms, like “Destiny is a liar,” “Destiny is manipulative,” “Destiny harms others.”
Read the list of things Destiny has done, one line at a time. Maybe even read it aloud to someone who doesn’t know who he is.
Then ask yourself: if you learned the same things about a random guy named Greg, and then you later found out Greg had secretly recorded and leaked revenge porn, would you really be surprised?
You’re not in shock because Destiny has suddenly been outed as abusive—that happened long ago. You’re in shock because Destiny is no longer able to provide you a rationalization for his behavior and has therefore lost some of his control over you.
Weaponized Cognitive Dissonance
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"
Cult members identify so strongly with the leader that they feel like they are the leader. Negative thoughts and feelings about the leader trigger cognitive dissonance, which on its own is a healthy part of critical thinking. The problem is that cult members always resolve their dissonance by becoming more loyal to the leader, never less. They inevitably abandon their own values, become confused, and cope by projecting their criticisms of the leader onto scapegoats and perceived enemies.
This feedback loop of ever-increasing loyalty mirrors the perpetual doubling-down of the narcissistic leader. A leader who never admits or even experiences self-doubt can be purely captivating and inspiring at first, but inevitable cracks in the performance eventually lead to cognitive dissonance.
Effective cult leaders like Trump, Andrew Tate, and Destiny are experts at weaponizing the emotional distress they cause in their followers.
Look at Destiny’s public chats about the new allegations:
(He uses Trumpian nicknames to discredit critics. Destiny started calling me “mrrapist” when he learned I was messaging his female colleagues “behind the scenes” to ask if they thought he was abusive.)
Let’s translate the message into plain English:
I am never malicious. In fact, it is Lav, mrgirl, and jstlk who are malicious for calling me malicious, and that’s stupid. Any mistakes I made were because I was very sex-driven, but even that stopped two years ago. Anyway, I can’t address these allegations further because Pxie and Chaeiry are vindictively taking legal action against me.
Essentially: I didn’t do anything wrong and everyone attacking me is greedy or crazy.
Destiny’s statement aims not just to shirk responsibility for his apparent sex crimes, but to paradoxically redirect your anger towards people who criticize his behavior, including the alleged victims.
Think back through the Destiny lore. Have you ever noticed that each scandal is conveniently framed around a villain who is always seen as worse than Destiny?
By manipulating community narratives, Destiny has primed you to experience bad feelings about him as bad feelings about other people. To put it bluntly: you are not able to think coherently about Destiny.
Even if you aren’t explicitly defending his predatory behavior, it’s clear that devoted DGGers don’t feel anger at Destiny for victimizing these women—they feel concern for him, which translates to increased emotional investment and loyalty.
Those of you who have not fled are actually being sucked further in.
Slow Down
Destiny likes to say that streamers can survive any scandal by simply streaming through it. If you’ve followed his career, you know this strategy has worked well for him. A chunk of viewers might demand accountability, but they inevitably either leave or get banned.
If you stay, your outrage will eventually settle. Something new and interesting will distract you (the new Trump administration, for example), and you’ll want Destiny back as your navigator. What’s more important—some “leaked nudes” (note the minimizing language) or a slew of frightening executive orders and economic threats against our allies?
Rationalizations will give you emotional resolution divorced from intellectual resolution, increasing your susceptibility to future manipulation. And so, while you’re “waiting to see how things play out,” Destiny will bypass both your logic and your morality—your very self.
And this is probably not the first time.
As you mentally bury each disturbing episode, you accumulate a debt of unprocessed thoughts and feelings, which works in his favor. The only way to avoid crushing grief is to keep giving Destiny the extreme benefit of the doubt.
(If and when your denial is shattered, Destiny will exile you without a thought. He does this to maintain control over the cult, but also because he genuinely can’t tolerate negative thoughts about himself. He will sacrifice anything to avoid narcissistic collapse.)
When you watch Destiny’s content, this cognitive bypassing also occurs on a micro-level. It’s not just that you agree with Destiny—you want to agree with him. Once you’re really bought-in, questioning him feels bad, or even scary. Despite evidence that he lies about his axioms and is often factually uninformed, if you’re in the right DGG headspace, Destiny seems like a genius expert on every topic.
(Remember, this is exactly how Trump supporters feel.)
Destiny talks, and you listen. He talks and talks and talks, usually quite fast. When he lies he talks even faster, and with more excitement.
Many DGGers watch his videos at 1.5x or even 2x speed, often while playing video games. How can you possibly think critically about information that’s being injected directly into your subconscious?
Or maybe that’s the point—if thinking critically about Destiny’s speech leads to emotional distress and possibly the loss of one’s thought leader and social life, DGGers may unconsciously work to smuggle Destiny past their own defenses.
I’m making a documentary about a serial child molester, and as part of my research, I read a book called Predators: Pedophiles, Rapists, and Other Sex Offenders, by Anna Salter.
In her chapter on our collective naivete, Salter writes that human brains likely assume all statements are true when we first hear them. She illustrates this vulnerability with an anecdote about a psychopathic rapist gaining access to a victim’s home:
One of the main mechanisms predators use when approaching strangers is to talk a lot and to give unnecessary detail, often about topics unrelated to the exchange. For instance, De Becker describes a young woman carrying heavy groceries up the stairs to her apartment. Several cans of cat food fell out of a bag and rolled down the stairs. Immediately, a man she had not seen when she came in picked them up and brought them to her. He offered to carry her bags for her and lightly ridiculed her caution when she was reluctant. Once he had the bags, he proceeded to chat all the way up the stairs about a cat he once forgot to feed for a friend.
Salter, Anna C.. Predators: Pedophiles, Rapists, And Other Sex Offenders (p. 164-165). Basic Books.
And so, too, the cult leader gains access to your mind.
I’ve heard DGGers openly admit that Destiny’s voice has replaced their own internal monologue (it’s quite obvious when they talk exactly like him). Internal monologue replacement is the inevitable result of years of listening to Destiny in the background while doing other tasks.
What happens to your inner voice then? How can you think for yourself in Destiny’s voice?
And if I’m right that he’s a narcissist who can’t tolerate criticism, how can you think critically about him when you no longer possess the vocabulary to do so?
I got a lot of shit for publishing my Destiny exposé as a written report. Why put out 100,000 words no one wants to read instead of a lucrative, attention-grabbing video?
Realistically, The Destiny Report takes about 8 hours to read. Yes, it’s long. It’s grueling, granular, and exhausting. It can’t be consumed passively like a video—your eyeballs must trek across each miserable sentence.
But, let’s be honest: that’s not why you didn’t read it. You didn’t read it because it’s uncomfortable and forbidden to read the critical writing of a defector, like reading the book of Satan.
Reading my report would mean ingesting information about Destiny from an outside perspective and hearing it in your own internal voice. Crucially, you’d be able to pause, research, and reflect as needed. You’d be betraying Destiny by, in effect, talking about him when he’s not there. “Behind the scenes.”
Ex-DGGers in my own audience still complain when I pause to think for a moment when speaking. They like to watch my streams at 2x speed so they don’t have to sit with any silence.
But we need silence in order to think deeply, and you owe it to yourself to think deeply when you invest significant time and money into another person, especially one of such questionable character.
More than that, you owe it to Pxie and Chaeiry.
Yes, It Actually Is a Cult
Pxie’s allegations have triggered a sizable exodus from DGG. Nearly all current orbiters have issued statements cutting ties with Destiny, and he’s lost over 10,000 subscribers.
On the subreddit, many of you are wrestling with whether to stay.
I see a lot of cognitive dissonance and rationalization from the fence sitters. It’s disturbing to watch you contort yourselves to justify remaining in DGG rather than staying because it feels right. Clearly, it doesn’t, but you may be afraid to leave.
That’s a gentle way of saying you appear to be brainwashed.
Dr. Steven Hassan, author of Combating Cult Mind Control and a leading authority on cults, developed what he calls the “BITE model of authoritarian control,” a litmus test for whether a group qualifies as a cult.
If you’re a current or former DGGer, you may have noticed the following cult characteristics:
Behavioral Control
Dictation of whom members associate with:
Destiny has an explicit blacklist and will exile DGGers for associating with certain critics and defectors.
Encouragement of groupthink:
Destiny regularly bans waves of members who side against him on a particular issue or who are primarily fans of another streamer.
DGGers “joke” about not being able to form their own opinions without Destiny.
Destiny culls critical thinkers from his community by using ideological pivots and his own bad behavior to test loyalty.
Information Control
Deception:
The idea that DGG is a cult is dismissed with winking irony. For example, Destiny sells merch with the motto: “Not a cult.”
Destiny presents himself as a responsible sex partner who over-communicates about consent. We now know this is dishonest.
Destiny spreads lies about people, usually to snuff out perceived threats, but sometimes out of spite or seemingly for fun (for example, he convinced thousands of people my girlfriend is unemployed for no reason).
Destiny has openly bragged about his ability and willingness to deceive and manipulate others.
Destiny is nice to new orbiters until he has leverage over them—whether financial dependence, embarrassing information or recordings, or emotional investment. Once he has leverage, he becomes unpredictable and cruel.
Minimization of non-cult sources of information:
DGG has its own wiki detailing accepted narratives of past “drama” (read: abuse).
Destiny reacts to content that members are likely to consume anyway, allowing him to control their interpretation of it through his framing and commentary.
Certain topics are blacklisted entirely—namely, critics and defectors.
Destiny bans criticism. Members downplay this censorship with humor, responding to critical posts with “o7” (a funeral salute anticipating a ban) or lamenting that banned members “memed too close to the sun.” The humor allows Destiny’s intolerance of criticism to coexist with the cult’s narrative that he is thick-skinned and open to being challenged.
Spying on members:
If a Destiny orbiter speaks critically about him on stream—no matter how small their audience—members will clip it and report back to him.
Orbiters are reluctant to criticize him even in private, for fear they’ll be outed as disloyal.
Thought Control
Requirement that members internalize the group’s doctrine as truth:
Destiny frames all conflicts as zero-sum games between himself and his perceived enemies (including his ex-wife).
Disagreements with version of events are treated as heresy. (For example, Lav was threatened with a ban in 2022 for implying that Destiny may have mistreated Anavoir—a woman he doxxed, blackmailed with her nudes, and smeared as a stalker while continuing to sext with her.)
Rejection of rational analysis, critical thinking, constructive criticism:
Ironic humor is used to acknowledge criticism of Destiny while dismissing it. Responses like “based” or “gigachad” allow DGGers to jokingly accept bad behavior without real analysis.
Destiny teaches a slippery style of argumentation that mimics critical thinking, but the questions are always pivots or straw men.
I’ve spoken to DGGers who have internalized these thought patterns so deeply they can’t turn it off.
For example, read this exchange between Destiny and Sam, a caller who expressed concern about Destiny attaching himself to a mayoral campaign:
Sam: I'm concerned. I'm from Omaha. I live in Omaha. And I'm concerned with a potential mayor candidate campaigning with someone like you, who has said the n-word and said the f-slur online, and–"
Destiny: Why would you focus so much on me and not on Mark's actual policy positions or what Mark believes? Like you realize I'm not part of Mark's campaign, I'm not running for office.
Sam: But you're definitely bringing over your supporters and your fans–
Destiny: Do you think that you should be vetting and denying help if you don't agree one hundred percent ideologically with every single canvasser or somebody that comes to volunteer?
Destiny uses a straw man to distort Sam’s criticism: “I reject Destiny’s help because he uses slurs” becomes “I reject Destiny’s help because I don’t one hundred percent align with his beliefs.” The fake question is asked quickly and angrily, forcing Sam to either painstakingly backtrack or accept the dishonest new frame.
Emotional Control
Manipulation and narrowing of the range of feelings:
Emotions are pseudo-ironically dismissed as “soy,” and DGGers are convinced their engagement with Destiny is intellectual, not emotional.
Despite Destiny bragging about his ability to manipulate others emotionally, psychological abuse and interpersonal responsibility are minimized or denied as concepts.
Destiny casts himself as a perfect logician with zero emotional vulnerabilities. His reactive banning of criticism is justified as necessary to the prevention of “anti-fans” from “taking over his community.” (Note the sleight-of-hand there: critical DGGers are instantly redefined as malicious aliens.)
Making members feel that problems are always their own fault, never the leader’s or the group’s fault:
Destiny never admits fault or apologizes sincerely.
DGGers take on responsibility for Destiny’s well-being. They donate money (I’d guess he makes over one million dollars a year), harass his perceived enemies, and defend him passionately from critics.
If DGGers complain about their treatment by Destiny, they are shut down, accused of being entitled, or banned.
Instill fear:
Critical defectors are harassed for years
Destiny openly threatens critics with blackmail and harassment.
DGGers share memes about events that happened just hours earlier on stream, creating FOMO and pressuring each other to consume as much Destiny content as possible.
Extreme emotional highs and lows:
Orbiters are subjected to intermittent love-bombing and humiliation by both Destiny and the community.
DGG is generally ultra-positive, but members who criticize or even question Destiny are excoriated and suddenly banned.
Dr. Hassan’s method of deprogramming involves getting the cult member away from the leader’s voice. Once there’s some quiet, they can begin rediscovering their own beliefs and reevaluating their loyalty to the leader.
If that sounds daunting, remember to go easy on yourself. Cults always rely on deception—you didn’t choose to be in this situation. It’s only after Destiny has become your idol, your inner monologue, and the lens through which you view reality that you find out he is dishonest and abusive.
So of course you’re in shock. You may not know yourself very well right now, and the guy you rely on to help organize and process your thoughts is nowhere to be found. You’re being forced to quit Destiny cold turkey, and it’s painful to have to look in the mirror after a period of self-abandonment.
Destiny’s Mental Health
It’s time to rip the Band-aid off.
Destiny is not a healthy guy. I know it always seems like he’s right on the verge of getting his shit together, as if marginally better impulse control and boundaries could turn him into the “good” version of Destiny.
I see this idea expressed in many of your heartbroken comments about the new allegations. We were so close to going mainstream… why’d he have to fuck everything up?
Destiny constantly engages in selfish risky behaviors that derail his life and harm others. He defends those choices as somehow in his best interest, but they clearly aren’t.
When he came on my podcast, Sam Vaknin described what he calls a “psychopathic narcissist.”
Me: So when Trump tweets something horrible, that seems horribly self-destructive, and we're all saying, "Why would you do that? That doesn't achieve your political goals, it doesn't make you money?"—the answer may be narcissistic supply.
Vaknin: "Yes he has an image of himself as a badass. As a nonconformist. As someone who is vindictive if you go against him. And this is the locus of his grandiosity. He needs to sustain this, to be the bad boy, someone you don't want to fuck with. His locus of grandiosity is extremely psychopathic. So you have a situation where you have a narcissist—he is a narcissist, little question about this—whose grandiosity consists of a psychopathic fantasy. Like, in his dreams he wants to be a psychopath. He's a wannabe psychopath.
Me: So he has to behave in a psychopathic manner to get the reinforcement that the fantasy is true.
Sam: Yes, like, "when I grow up I want to be a psychopath." But he is not a real psychopath. I don't think that Trump is a psychopath. But he's a narcissist who pretends to be a psychopath in order to scare off the bad wolves. It's extreme insecurity. And inferiority. […] A real psychopath is focused on goals. He couldn't care less about other people. He couldn't care less about attention.
I think that fits Destiny pretty well. He’s bragged about being a Machiavellian sociopath, not caring if his cat dies, planning to kill a teenager, not caring if he gets divorced, not being capable of love, thinking the firefighter deserved to die in the Trump assassination attempt… the list goes on.
But would a real psychopath say all those things out loud? Would a psychopath be so retaliatory over the smallest insults? Would a psychopath tell everyone he planned to kill a kid rather than just doing it?
Probably not. More likely, he’s deluded himself into believing he’s the type of invulnerable, unfeeling person who wouldn’t be affected by childhood abuse. (Or maybe “real” psychopaths are also pretending, but their performance runs so deep it’s utterly impenetrable.)
None of this to say that Destiny isn’t dangerous—he is. He compulsively harms himself and others, and seems to be driven by a kind of eroticized fear.
I think he records conversations and sex acts partly because he’s afraid of getting “me tooed,” but he’s also clearly aroused by blackmail, risk-taking, and retaliation. My best guess is that lashing out, self-defense, and sexual excitement are all blurred together for Destiny. Anyone who offends him becomes a target for his sadistic and excessive retaliation.
The purpose of my speculation here isn’t to diagnose Destiny. It’s to point out that DGG’s narrative of Destiny as a “coomer” with ADHD falls well short of accounting for his destructive, erratic behavior.
Destiny is nowhere close to being a functional member of society, let alone someone who should be entrusted with power.
First and foremost, he must be held accountable for his consistently abusive behavior. Then he needs serious help.
And you can’t help him. A guy who’s been using delusions of grandeur to escape his childhood trauma for 36 years doesn’t need a cult following him around, throwing money at him, excusing his sex crimes, and harassing his victims.
Your Mental Health
Destiny can’t help you either. Your engagement with his content is not good for you.
His external presentation is not genuine. The feelings and beliefs he expresses are fake. He doesn’t care about politics or have real political opinions, nor can he meaningfully help you form yours.
Destiny’s content is an invitation into his narcissistic fantasy life. His streams focus entirely on tearing other people down and seeming smart by comparison. His writing consists mostly of “manifestos”—retaliatory smears of smaller creators who have somehow wronged him.
Destiny doesn’t generate unique ideas (probably because it wouldn’t feel safe). He isn’t especially knowledgeable or insightful, or even particularly good at debating on a logical level.
His main skill is manipulation. He has spent his entire life convincing himself he is always correct as a defense mechanism against emotional pain. Now he convinces others, too.
You don’t watch his content because he has good takes. I doubt you fact-check him, and I’ve seen how DGGers react when Destiny is shown to be irrefutably wrong.
You watch his content because it makes you feel smart and superior. It’s reality TV masquerading as political commentary.
Think of the difference between watching a movie where a guy learns calculus in a 2-minute montage versus actually learning calculus yourself. The cult’s shared fantasy reinforces your delusion of political engagement and defends against your own critical thoughts.
There’s a dark irony to DGGers questioning how Republicans can still support Trump, let alone call him a genius. You are exactly like them, and the answer is simple: it feels good. It feels right.
And, like Trump, Destiny surrounds himself with sycophantic cultists who are terrified of offending him because they know they’ll be smeared and discarded the moment they’re no longer useful.
It’s quite easy to appear intelligent when you have manipulated every single aspect of a situation to support that narrative. And that is Destiny’s primary interest: manipulating people. Not politics.
Destiny is not enriching your worldview or teaching you anything except how to think like a narcissistic psychopath. He’s the cult-leader version of Sean Hannity. Learning about politics should not be hyper-entertaining. Consumers of infotainment invariably accept ideas because they feel good, and then challenges to those ideas start to feel bad.
That’s what brainwashing is—eventually you get to a point where critical thinking hurts so much you actually can’t do it. The lies you tell yourself pile up and make it harder and harder to escape.
Destiny is not there to help you see through any bullshit, and the idea that you need him to fact-check politicians or social media posts for you is absurd. Get a subscription to a newspaper or two and read them for ten minutes a day. Read some books. You don’t need to listen to a sexual predator ramble for ten hours to stay informed about Trump’s latest executive order.
And, really, even if Destiny prevails in court and things go back to “normal,” what are you going to do the next time he brings a college girl on stream to chat about her political views? Just play along like you don’t know what’s happening?
Sadism
It may appear that Destiny has lost control of the narrative this time, but he actually hasn’t. DGG thinks they are criticizing him, but they’re actually parroting his defense: Destiny was so horny that he betrayed the trust of his sex partners.
Why am I calling it a “defense”? Because Destiny has manipulated you into viewing the revenge porn leaks as the impulsive behavior of a sex addict. Like when your strung out cousin sells your car for drug money—you might be angry, but ultimately you feel bad for him and want him to get help.
I think this comment is closer to the truth. The scandals are indeed games to him, and I’m sure he does get off on the risk, as he has explicitly admitted to sexual fantasies of being blackmailed.
But you need to understand something here:
The revenge porn leaks are absolutely malicious. The goal was to harm these women, and he enjoys their distress.
It’s also highly likely there is a retaliatory element—don’t be surprised if the timing of the leaks align with perceived slights against him by the victims.
Here’s a chat message he wrote on January 23 complaining that one of his accusers (Chaeiry) had tweeted out negative details of their sexual encounter two years prior.
Destiny has a well-documented pattern of using exaggerated claims of victimhood to justify retaliation as self-defense.
Remember when he planned to kill a teenager because he was getting DDoSed—a decision he still defends to this day? Or when he blackmailed Anavoir with her nudes because she wanted to correct his lie that they were no longer sexting? Or when he preemptively smeared Denims and LittleeFox as liars because he was worried they might accuse him of sexual coercion?
After Lauren Southern ended her affair with Destiny in 2022, he leaked screenshots of their DMs to several people, including me. When I asked Lauren for an interview months later, Destiny falsely announced that I was trying to blackmail a private person with some secret he’d told me—essentially daring me to out Lauren to clear my own name.
I refused to do so, but Destiny told so many people about their affair that it inevitably became public knowledge, and the screenshots were finally leaked by his sexting buddy.
Was that him being a “dumb fuck” too?
So no, Destiny is not a mindless sex addict who tried to fuck a 19-year-old by sending her revenge porn he secretly filmed. That doesn’t make sense.
Destiny is addicted to tricking and hurting people, not banging hot Instagram chicks. I understand you would bang hot girls if you had his clout. That's not what Destiny wants to do—he wants to send women naked videos of each other, tell them each other's secrets, parade them in front of you on stream, and mentally toy with them until they snap.
His goal with the 19-year-old was to distribute revenge porn while he jerked off to the damage he was doing.
Rationalizations
Destiny has zero remorse for his actions and he is not going to change his obviously compulsive behavior. And, to be honest, I’m not sure I believe that you want him to.
I think you’re transparently virtue signaling. “I wish Destiny would stop torturing mentally ill women and get back to debates and research streams.”
Bullshit. His entire platform is built on sadism.
Calling rape victims retarded, telling a woman he hopes she gets raped with a shovel, the endless parade of orbiters freaking out and getting dogpiled, laughing at “dipshit protesters” being killed by Kyle Rittenhouse, then laughing at a Trump supporter being killed by Thomas Matthew Crooks, ridiculing suicidal people, mocking Mohammad and then mocking Muslims when they freak out—it’s all just sadism.
Hurting people is fun. That’s Destiny’s entire platform. It goes down a little easier when he targets people you believe deserve to be hurt, but I’ve learned from experience that you don’t require much convincing.
By rationalizing your participation in his community, you are not only enabling sadistic abuse, you are legitimately losing your grip on reality.
The idea that Destiny is an asset to any political movement is delusional. He should be ejected from all political discourse, advocacy, campaign work—everything. I wouldn’t trust him to hand out bumper stickers.
His speech and thought patterns disconnect you from warmth, morality, and logic. People outside the cult stereotype DGGers as annoying and scary, and it's not because everyone who hates Destiny is crazy.
It’s because you’re crazy.
I’m not exaggerating. The collision between DGG world and reality these past two weeks has been brutal and revealing. The orbiters have tried to issue statements condemning Destiny, but they are unable to do so without playing to DGG and inadvertently defending him.
If you’re thinking of leaving, do it. If you don’t, you will look back on this moment with regret.
When I say Destiny enjoys hurting people, that includes you.
Book Recommendations
Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us — Robert D. Hare
Predators: Pedophiles, Rapists, And Other Sex Offenders — Anna Salter
Combating Cult Mind Control — Steven Hassan
The Betrayal Bond: Breaking Free of Exploitive Relationships — Patrick J. Carnes
I'm done watching his content. I've had cognitive dissonance about him for over a year now. I've consciously filed him as an immoral person but I've continued to watch his videos for their "value". When reading articles on my own is actually way quicker and healthier than listening to him regurgitate similar forms of shallow analysis. It goes in one ear and out the other until it's just noise. I can't even remember half of it.
Solid read.
It's been a horrifying and fascinating ride watching destiny go from gross sex pest wanna be eSports guy, to try hard streamer social climber, to blood sports and then the political shift.
Destiny had worse scandals than most successfully cancelled streamers well over a decade ago, yet streamers, YouTubers, and even politicians have happily got on board with him. You were one of them.
It has been a great litmus test of moral character and credability for online spaces, who gets on board and how long they last.
I hope this does end up leading to career end for him but I doubt it. Beyond that I wouldn't be surprised if this starts to go into a more explicit Scientology direction, with the "success" too, sadly. I have little hope for holding to account when he can provide much to people happy to ignore things for what is provided.
Good luck and good speed the path you walk and person you become.