just finished this one. i wonder how many truely horrible people like child molesters or murders truly believe beyond everything they didnt do anything wrong. this guy feels more like he knows its wrong but he cant admit it, and regardless he enjoys it so hes learned these 3/4 counter arguments against it that he repeated throughout the interview. 'in other countries...' 'its not just about sex' 'he didnt say no' 'i wasnt punished that harshly'.
Yeah, this interview kind of blurred the lines for me between rationalization and lack of a conscience--I think they might be the same thing.
I always thought of predators as pure psychopaths who know they are hurting people, but now I think maybe all rationalization is psychopathic, and some people just do it more than others.
If Mr. Percy thought the parents might be ok with their kid going over to his house alone to play video games, but he wasn't sure, when he asks he could say "hey, I was talking to your kid, he's quite attractive, I was wondering if I could have him over to my house to play video games". that way, you're not moving things too fast saying "I definitely want to have sex with him" but you're telling them "I might be interested in having sex with him". it seems fair to require to disclose that to them. So, that way, Percy, if you somehow manage to find a parent who doesn't mind if their 14 year old's back gets blown out by the, in your own words, "creepy" fishing guy, you'll know that you aren't crossing anyone's lines.
Mr. Percy has the inability to separate his mind from reality. The closest he got to breaking through his web of delusions was when he asked what would happen if intercourse with women were outlawed. That’s the closest he got to saying “I didn’t behave, but you hypocrites would have done the exact same thing in my position, I despise all of you and you are no better than me.” You can tell that’s what he believes deep down. He can’t even fully own that, let alone think that he might have done something horrible. What a sick mind.
The endless excuses were revealing and put front and center the blind spot this guy had to justify and absolve himself if the worse part of his crime. Scary man. And to know there is an entire community of these people justifying in the same way, citing some ancient civilization or culture that allowed this, shows how big and in the shadows this shit is. Thank you for having this interview max it was definitely a unique and informative one.
Dude, that was painful to listen to. The guy seems genuinely oblivious and will come up with any explanation for why a victim would be traumatized that is not the obvious cause is that an adult took advantage of a child's naivety to have sex with them.
I commend Mr. Girl for remaining calm while listening to this drivel.
To the interviewee: seek help and take every step possible to physically separate yourself from access to children. You're a danger to them and you don't even have the self-awareness to know that you are. Horrifying.
Wow you should be a comedian! Everybody here is rolling on the floor laughing about this wonderful intellectual multi faceted mind blowing humor! Congratulations!
I hope so. I always defended him from those idiotic accusations, ever since the Cuties review, but there's no way I'm not gonna joke about it every once in a while. If you have a song (a good one at that) titled "I am a pedophile", you're in on the joke.
Dude, OBVIOISLY I know that song and the backstory. I’m pretty sure there’s nobody on this site who doesn’t know it as this is pretty far in the MrGirl rabbit hole.
Still, I would also bet a pretty penny that literally nobody got a chuckle out this old and tired joke that people keep using to bully him, and I’ll bet you anything that Max didn’t chuckle at this, it was just painful and annoying.
You explained the issues with this caller's thinking multiple, multiple times and he refused to hear you. I was shaken by how much of a brick wall he was, while of course trying to *sound* very open and pleasant.
MrGirl seems very uncharitable to this caller. He puts a lot of words in the caller's mouth, and doesn't let him finish his sentences in the later half. Feels very antagonistic.
At the end, the caller says "isn't every romantic relationship a type of grooming?" to which mrgirl says "i feel you're going around in circles". I think this is an example of where mrgirl could have taken the time to explain the power imbalance that is inherent in any child-guardian relationship.
I feel like there was a lot of emotional judgment from mrgirl's side, and not enough empathy. Saying "that's what a predator would say!" or "society is seeing you as a liar" when talking to a predator in denial, isn't going to change their mind.
But I understand a convo like this can be difficult when the animosity is high, and the caller is being very avoidant in answering questions.
I didn't get the impression that the caller actually believes minors can consent. I think he was lying. I think Max was right about him getting off on the power differential itself. Him switching frameworks every time Max refuted something he said reinforces my belief on that. He doesn't really believe any of that stuff, he's just wriggling out of direct confrontation.
I think that's why Max was getting more aggressive and dismissing his rationalizations as the interview went on. I agree that his emotions got the better of him at certain points, I would've liked to see him dig a little deeper and engage more.
just finished this one. i wonder how many truely horrible people like child molesters or murders truly believe beyond everything they didnt do anything wrong. this guy feels more like he knows its wrong but he cant admit it, and regardless he enjoys it so hes learned these 3/4 counter arguments against it that he repeated throughout the interview. 'in other countries...' 'its not just about sex' 'he didnt say no' 'i wasnt punished that harshly'.
Yeah, this interview kind of blurred the lines for me between rationalization and lack of a conscience--I think they might be the same thing.
I always thought of predators as pure psychopaths who know they are hurting people, but now I think maybe all rationalization is psychopathic, and some people just do it more than others.
If Mr. Percy thought the parents might be ok with their kid going over to his house alone to play video games, but he wasn't sure, when he asks he could say "hey, I was talking to your kid, he's quite attractive, I was wondering if I could have him over to my house to play video games". that way, you're not moving things too fast saying "I definitely want to have sex with him" but you're telling them "I might be interested in having sex with him". it seems fair to require to disclose that to them. So, that way, Percy, if you somehow manage to find a parent who doesn't mind if their 14 year old's back gets blown out by the, in your own words, "creepy" fishing guy, you'll know that you aren't crossing anyone's lines.
Mr. Percy has the inability to separate his mind from reality. The closest he got to breaking through his web of delusions was when he asked what would happen if intercourse with women were outlawed. That’s the closest he got to saying “I didn’t behave, but you hypocrites would have done the exact same thing in my position, I despise all of you and you are no better than me.” You can tell that’s what he believes deep down. He can’t even fully own that, let alone think that he might have done something horrible. What a sick mind.
The endless excuses were revealing and put front and center the blind spot this guy had to justify and absolve himself if the worse part of his crime. Scary man. And to know there is an entire community of these people justifying in the same way, citing some ancient civilization or culture that allowed this, shows how big and in the shadows this shit is. Thank you for having this interview max it was definitely a unique and informative one.
Dude, that was painful to listen to. The guy seems genuinely oblivious and will come up with any explanation for why a victim would be traumatized that is not the obvious cause is that an adult took advantage of a child's naivety to have sex with them.
I commend Mr. Girl for remaining calm while listening to this drivel.
To the interviewee: seek help and take every step possible to physically separate yourself from access to children. You're a danger to them and you don't even have the self-awareness to know that you are. Horrifying.
Finally someone interviewed you!
(Sorry, I couldn't help myself.)
Wow you should be a comedian! Everybody here is rolling on the floor laughing about this wonderful intellectual multi faceted mind blowing humor! Congratulations!
It's a running joke with Max, relax.
You think he got a good chuckle out of this “oldie but goodie”?
I hope so. I always defended him from those idiotic accusations, ever since the Cuties review, but there's no way I'm not gonna joke about it every once in a while. If you have a song (a good one at that) titled "I am a pedophile", you're in on the joke.
Dude, OBVIOISLY I know that song and the backstory. I’m pretty sure there’s nobody on this site who doesn’t know it as this is pretty far in the MrGirl rabbit hole.
Still, I would also bet a pretty penny that literally nobody got a chuckle out this old and tired joke that people keep using to bully him, and I’ll bet you anything that Max didn’t chuckle at this, it was just painful and annoying.
Sligthly annoying, maybe, but painful? Nah, I don't believe Max is so delicate.
You explained the issues with this caller's thinking multiple, multiple times and he refused to hear you. I was shaken by how much of a brick wall he was, while of course trying to *sound* very open and pleasant.
Well that was grim
MrGirl seems very uncharitable to this caller. He puts a lot of words in the caller's mouth, and doesn't let him finish his sentences in the later half. Feels very antagonistic.
At the end, the caller says "isn't every romantic relationship a type of grooming?" to which mrgirl says "i feel you're going around in circles". I think this is an example of where mrgirl could have taken the time to explain the power imbalance that is inherent in any child-guardian relationship.
I feel like there was a lot of emotional judgment from mrgirl's side, and not enough empathy. Saying "that's what a predator would say!" or "society is seeing you as a liar" when talking to a predator in denial, isn't going to change their mind.
But I understand a convo like this can be difficult when the animosity is high, and the caller is being very avoidant in answering questions.
I didn't get the impression that the caller actually believes minors can consent. I think he was lying. I think Max was right about him getting off on the power differential itself. Him switching frameworks every time Max refuted something he said reinforces my belief on that. He doesn't really believe any of that stuff, he's just wriggling out of direct confrontation.
I think that's why Max was getting more aggressive and dismissing his rationalizations as the interview went on. I agree that his emotions got the better of him at certain points, I would've liked to see him dig a little deeper and engage more.
Thanks Mr Girl - really good interview I’m at about 30 mins in -
Just giving you a nice comment before you piss the caller off and they drop from the call.
Looking forward to your next interview.