Can we start using the word "community" in a meaningful way again? Let us call the audiences of creators of online content something more appropriate, like "audience".
Theres almost no push back here. Destiny brings up the frequency as being far more. Talks about talking to the kids dad and the police. You have yet to push him on any of this and im 20 min deep. The guy admits after the threats he still did it. Which means after talking to his dad he still did it, since that was before in both retellings. That means destiny was right that the dad wasn't doing anything.
Listen to his story, he mentions his dad was called by him first multiple spam calls. In which destiny says his dad isn't doing anything. Then max asks, did you contiue ddosing him after the threats. He says yes "one time" because he didn't know it was serious. But when talking about the dad, the dad claimed his son was no longer doing it. This guy says he had stopped. The only logical reading is that he lied to his dad and his dad didn't care and he continued. Otherwise he's claiming destiny's last step was calling the dad, after making the threats and not befofe. Which makes no sense especially with the retelling on both mentioning calling the dad in the first parts of the story before the threats.
"The dad claimed his son was no longer doing it" wasn't he saying that in the context of, destiny was persisting with threatening them even when it stopped? This isn't me correcting you, I'm asking because I can't find the timestamp and am unsure.
I believe there's a strong likelihood the kid DDOS'd him more than 10 times, but the ddos kid saying he did it one more time after the threats, and the dad saying his son stopped, doesn't seem indicative of anything. You're saying the ddos kid lied to his dad and kept it up after all these years? He was probably in the same room as his dad during this phone call, where he openly states "I called him one more time after the harassment" multiple times.
"The dad claimed his son was no longer doing it" wasn't he saying that in the context of, destiny was persisting with threatening them even when it stopped? This isn't me correcting you, I'm asking because I can't find the timestamp and am unsure.
I believe there's a strong likelihood the kid DDOS'd him more than 10 times, but the ddos kid saying he did it one more time after the threats, and the dad saying his son stopped, doesn't seem indicative of anything. You're saying the ddos kid lied to his dad and kept it up after all these years? He was probably in the same room as his dad during this phone call, where he openly states "I called him one more time after the harassment" multiple times.
"The dad claimed his son was no longer doing it" wasn't he saying that in the context of, destiny was persisting with threatening them even when it stopped? This isn't me correcting you, I'm asking because I can't find the timestamp and am unsure.
I believe there's a strong likelihood the kid DDOS'd him more than 10 times, but the ddos kid saying he did it one more time after the threats, and the dad saying his son stopped, doesn't seem indicative of anything. You're saying the ddos kid lied to his dad and kept it up after all these years? He was probably in the same room as his dad during this phone call, where he openly states "I called him one more time after the harassment" multiple times.
"The dad claimed his son was no longer doing it" wasn't he saying that in the context of, destiny was persisting with threatening them even when it stopped? This isn't me correcting you, I'm asking because I can't find the timestamp and am unsure.
I believe there's a strong likelihood the kid DDOS'd him more than 10 times, but the ddos kid saying he did it one more time after the threats, and the dad saying his son stopped, doesn't seem indicative of anything. You're saying the ddos kid lied to his dad and kept it up after all these years? He was probably in the same room as his dad during this phone call, where he openly states "I called him one more time after the harassment" multiple times.
Lmao. I don't use substack, so I was so confused by all the email notifications. Thought it was because people were quoting you. Mobile frogging so I don't have the exact time stamp. However it's most likely he did lie to his dad. And his dad obviously isn't here to correct the record. Otherwise again. Him saying destiny threatened him and he continued means that destiny went to the kid personally first to threaten him, which doesn't seem to follow the rest of the retelling. Even then, this kid obviously has zero remorse. He continued to do this stuff after destiny, after the threats. That's not someone scared so bad they shake retelling the story 15 years later.
It chills me to my core that just a few years ago I was totally convinced that this was okay. I'm exceedingly grateful to be able to hear this story from this perspective.
But he doesn't sound very apologetic or "redeemed" regarding his past behavior. He waffles a lot around the question of whether he still DDOS'es people - and seems to take pride in his past behavior. He apologizes to destiny though? But it feels like fear.
The fact that he continued the DDOS'ing AFTER Destiny had explicitly threatened his family also puts Destiny in a more pressured situation (feeling like he is powerless to stop the harassment).
It doesn't excuse Destiny's behavior. But I'm not feeling much different than before i watched.
You are excusing his behaviour. He was a child and inconvenienced a streamer for a couple days. Destiny literally planned to rape and kill a child’s family over a video game.
I am not excusing his behavior. I am saying how his story makes me feel, which is not much different than before I watched.
To be clear, I totally agree that destiny is in the wrong, and obviously should face repercussions for threatening another person and his family lie that.
But emotionally, I'm not feeling stronger sympathy for the caller than I did before I listened in, since he doesn't seem to truly understand why what he did was wrong.
I was about to respond to you with "did you watch the video, he literally says what his did was wrong and stupid 3 times in 20 mnutes" or "AoC says he couldn't have sex/drink because he's too stupid at his young age but he should be killed because he was stupid at his young age?"
But then I remembered anyone who would defend destiny at this point doesn't care about facts, laws, logic or morality anymore. It's just "my internet dad being attacked, waaah. I have to defend him".
I'd say have fun helping an e-rapist destroy more women's lives but you probably enjoy that. /shrug
I am not defending destiny at all. I already thought, before I watched this video, that destiny was insane and psychopathic for doing the shit he did. And I still hold that view. But as a personal story, I just wish that the caller had changed his ways, and done done some more soul searching. Because I'm left feeling very ambivalent about him as a person, which is sad when I should first and foremost feel like he's s victim. I still see him as s victim - but not in a stronger sense than I did before I watched.
Cool video
Why not post on rumble?
Oops! I didn't mean to post it 3 times. Please accept my apologies.
Can we start using the word "community" in a meaningful way again? Let us call the audiences of creators of online content something more appropriate, like "audience".
Theres almost no push back here. Destiny brings up the frequency as being far more. Talks about talking to the kids dad and the police. You have yet to push him on any of this and im 20 min deep. The guy admits after the threats he still did it. Which means after talking to his dad he still did it, since that was before in both retellings. That means destiny was right that the dad wasn't doing anything.
> Which means after talking to his dad he still did it
Please share the timestamp were he says that, I might have missed this part.
Listen to his story, he mentions his dad was called by him first multiple spam calls. In which destiny says his dad isn't doing anything. Then max asks, did you contiue ddosing him after the threats. He says yes "one time" because he didn't know it was serious. But when talking about the dad, the dad claimed his son was no longer doing it. This guy says he had stopped. The only logical reading is that he lied to his dad and his dad didn't care and he continued. Otherwise he's claiming destiny's last step was calling the dad, after making the threats and not befofe. Which makes no sense especially with the retelling on both mentioning calling the dad in the first parts of the story before the threats.
"The dad claimed his son was no longer doing it" wasn't he saying that in the context of, destiny was persisting with threatening them even when it stopped? This isn't me correcting you, I'm asking because I can't find the timestamp and am unsure.
I believe there's a strong likelihood the kid DDOS'd him more than 10 times, but the ddos kid saying he did it one more time after the threats, and the dad saying his son stopped, doesn't seem indicative of anything. You're saying the ddos kid lied to his dad and kept it up after all these years? He was probably in the same room as his dad during this phone call, where he openly states "I called him one more time after the harassment" multiple times.
Damn idk how tf this ended up posting so many times
"The dad claimed his son was no longer doing it" wasn't he saying that in the context of, destiny was persisting with threatening them even when it stopped? This isn't me correcting you, I'm asking because I can't find the timestamp and am unsure.
I believe there's a strong likelihood the kid DDOS'd him more than 10 times, but the ddos kid saying he did it one more time after the threats, and the dad saying his son stopped, doesn't seem indicative of anything. You're saying the ddos kid lied to his dad and kept it up after all these years? He was probably in the same room as his dad during this phone call, where he openly states "I called him one more time after the harassment" multiple times.
"The dad claimed his son was no longer doing it" wasn't he saying that in the context of, destiny was persisting with threatening them even when it stopped? This isn't me correcting you, I'm asking because I can't find the timestamp and am unsure.
I believe there's a strong likelihood the kid DDOS'd him more than 10 times, but the ddos kid saying he did it one more time after the threats, and the dad saying his son stopped, doesn't seem indicative of anything. You're saying the ddos kid lied to his dad and kept it up after all these years? He was probably in the same room as his dad during this phone call, where he openly states "I called him one more time after the harassment" multiple times.
I did not mean to post this three times sorry mrgirl
"The dad claimed his son was no longer doing it" wasn't he saying that in the context of, destiny was persisting with threatening them even when it stopped? This isn't me correcting you, I'm asking because I can't find the timestamp and am unsure.
I believe there's a strong likelihood the kid DDOS'd him more than 10 times, but the ddos kid saying he did it one more time after the threats, and the dad saying his son stopped, doesn't seem indicative of anything. You're saying the ddos kid lied to his dad and kept it up after all these years? He was probably in the same room as his dad during this phone call, where he openly states "I called him one more time after the harassment" multiple times.
Lmao. I don't use substack, so I was so confused by all the email notifications. Thought it was because people were quoting you. Mobile frogging so I don't have the exact time stamp. However it's most likely he did lie to his dad. And his dad obviously isn't here to correct the record. Otherwise again. Him saying destiny threatened him and he continued means that destiny went to the kid personally first to threaten him, which doesn't seem to follow the rest of the retelling. Even then, this kid obviously has zero remorse. He continued to do this stuff after destiny, after the threats. That's not someone scared so bad they shake retelling the story 15 years later.
It chills me to my core that just a few years ago I was totally convinced that this was okay. I'm exceedingly grateful to be able to hear this story from this perspective.
The response to this episode on Twitter has been pretty vile
I understand the point of having him on.
But he doesn't sound very apologetic or "redeemed" regarding his past behavior. He waffles a lot around the question of whether he still DDOS'es people - and seems to take pride in his past behavior. He apologizes to destiny though? But it feels like fear.
The fact that he continued the DDOS'ing AFTER Destiny had explicitly threatened his family also puts Destiny in a more pressured situation (feeling like he is powerless to stop the harassment).
It doesn't excuse Destiny's behavior. But I'm not feeling much different than before i watched.
You are excusing his behaviour. He was a child and inconvenienced a streamer for a couple days. Destiny literally planned to rape and kill a child’s family over a video game.
I am not excusing his behavior. I am saying how his story makes me feel, which is not much different than before I watched.
To be clear, I totally agree that destiny is in the wrong, and obviously should face repercussions for threatening another person and his family lie that.
But emotionally, I'm not feeling stronger sympathy for the caller than I did before I listened in, since he doesn't seem to truly understand why what he did was wrong.
I was about to respond to you with "did you watch the video, he literally says what his did was wrong and stupid 3 times in 20 mnutes" or "AoC says he couldn't have sex/drink because he's too stupid at his young age but he should be killed because he was stupid at his young age?"
But then I remembered anyone who would defend destiny at this point doesn't care about facts, laws, logic or morality anymore. It's just "my internet dad being attacked, waaah. I have to defend him".
I'd say have fun helping an e-rapist destroy more women's lives but you probably enjoy that. /shrug
I am not defending destiny at all. I already thought, before I watched this video, that destiny was insane and psychopathic for doing the shit he did. And I still hold that view. But as a personal story, I just wish that the caller had changed his ways, and done done some more soul searching. Because I'm left feeling very ambivalent about him as a person, which is sad when I should first and foremost feel like he's s victim. I still see him as s victim - but not in a stronger sense than I did before I watched.
I wasn't sure it this was actually going to happen. Great timing, too.
Yeah. People like Destiny are the reason we have red flag laws.