I started following this Shit 2 months ago….. for this pile of dog shit…. What.the.fuck…. It kinda sounds like you’re just a little bitch about getting banned and so you found some people who don’t like destiny… This bullshit about he had sex with a consenting adult but somehow it needs to be more than that is disgusting. Grow up and stop calling adults your daughter… I literally threw up in my mouth and got cancer hearing that.
This guy fucks small children and dolls while also he rapes his so called partner it’s all openly documented on various streams he should be doxxed without mercy 🖕🏻
You keep talking about 'power dynamics' in the context about Mr. Bonnell's influence over your career and your and other orbiter's financial dependence to Mr. Bonnell's streaming career and I have a question:
The financial dependence you purport to have to Mr. Bonnell, why does it exist? Are you not an adult who is:
1. An influencer who has an independent audience who is able to grow that audience by your own power and thus not dependent on anyone else to grow the aforementioned audience.
and
2. A person who is able to secure multiple streams of income through both streaming and non-streaming work as well as the merchandise you sell on your platform.
I mean, sure, without Mr. Bonnell's influence in your content you might not grow as fast as you would with him but you would still grow both as an influencer and streamer and it would do nothing to the income from merch but I don't think even you would say that losing your relationship with Mr. Bonnell's sphere of influence has "cut off" any streams of income per se.
I think it may have reduced the amount of income and how fast that amount grows over time but I don't think anyone thinks that your income has dropped from X number to zero.
The power dynamic you're talking about seems to be, to me, based on the size of Mr. Bonnell's fanbase and the influence it exerted on your career as a streamer. It only exists on the basis of your financial dependence on Mr. Bonnell but you have not in any way explained why you would be unable to secure a separate stream of income from, say, a regular 9-to-5 job or your self-purported rap career, not to mention your merchandise sales.
I don't understand how you are or could be financially dependent on someone and unable to pay your bills / rent if you have all these options as far as income goes. You might not be able to live in luxury or have as easy a job outside that sphere but you wouldn't starve or be unable to pay for rent or other basic necessities such as food, water, shelter, and (if you live in America) insurance.
If any of these points make sense to I would love your input so as to further our collective understanding of your positions on this topic.
It's just amazing how you spent this much time creating a huge nothing-burger of a 100,000 word novel about a streamer, because you got banned from his subreddit.
I hope in a few years you can look back at this document and realize that you put this much effort into creating a document that 100% ruined your career propper.
You had some good and original stuff going in your career, but for some reason ended up throwing it all away to help your compulsive lier friend instead of just ditching her, and got the wild idea to spend 4 MONTHS (maybe more??) of your life writing this.
There is NO new information here. After all your time spent on "research" and "interviews". Where you promised to include all things said about Destiny, good and bad. This is just a huge wall of text containing transcripts of videos that anyone who has followed this shitshow has already seen, with some "edgy Max narration" added for dramatic effect.
The post article drop interviews you've been streaming also reinforces this, and your complete ineptitude of taking criticism.
Waste of time for you to make, and waste of time for anyone to read. A solid 0/100.
"'Goodnight princess, good morning princess,' really? I'm misrepresenting the relationship? Remember all the things you told me about Melina? …I've been fucking protecting you, I've been protecting you, I've been protecting you from lying to Melina, how fucking dare you? If you're gonna do this shit, then I'm leaking it all. I'm not protecting your lying ass anymore." Along with the amount of times she followed him around to multiple platforms after him trying to clearly cut ties with her and even going as far as having to block her. On top of him giving in and continuing to talk to her just for her to non-stop ask for him to fix her public persona so she can have a career built around him. From personal experience and that of countless others you can find she's clearly an abusive woman. I don't care who's side you're on there's no way of painting Destiny as abusive to this girl unless you're actually braindead or on a false crusade. Article is practically useless since the only source actually given publicly about this whole thing is that of an abusive unstable manipulating woman.
I did not read the article in full, and relied on other streamers reacting to parts of it. Originally, the pattern of power abuse didn't resonate with me. I felt that a streamer, however innocent, would have had plenty of regrettable interactions over the years, and that such a document could have been written about any content creator.
However, the recent egg throwing incident got me thinking about the article. Destiny was obviously abusive, unapologetic and even justified it to his large audience. Thank you, MrGirl. Without your article I would not have seen that incident through an abusive lens.
Mrgirl is faced with a dilemma when it comes to including sources. The audience wants/needs sources to verify his claims, but mrgirl openly refuses to make them public because he doesn't want the audience to see/hear the full context for themselves. He knows that if he releases the sources for people to see/hear for themselves, he would just giving people direct proof that he isn't a credible person. If giving sources discredits your narrative, then your narrative is flawed.
He does not want people to fact check. He would much rather not include sources and have people UNSURE If he's credible, than include sources and give proof that he's not credible. This is why he is only giving sources to select individuals.
Mrgirl says he ONLY wants people to read the words he has personally selected, nothing more. In mrgirls mind, it doesn't matter if people say something as a reference because they are making fun of an idea, vs saying something in ernest because they truly believe the idea. Maybe he doesn't always believe this, but right now, while it's most convenient, he does.
Mrgirl discredited and dodged genuine questions about his incredibly flawed "investigation" with one sentence: "just wait for the fucking article" now that the article is out, rather than finally answer to legitimate questions that are pertinent to his credibility, he struggles to find reasons to discredit anyone with questions aside from (you're brainwashed by destiny). His bubble and worldview is going to get smaller and smaller and smaller as he continuously is forced to adjust his beliefs in order to avoid facing his faults.
Conveniently, the faults he does currently accept, are the "faults" that he believes give credibility to his article "I admit, I have done something bad. I too once played a roll and participated in the abusive, corrupt system that destiny has built. Me calling those women bitches was me participating in destiny's system....which I am now heroically exposing".
MrGirl is one of the most flawed individual's I've ever seen. He will discredit all of this, by assuming I'm a "DG'er."
Before reading, I thought I agreed with the criticism that it was too long and shouldn’t have been text-based. I wanted something easily digestible, a video essay I could passively absorb. But damn.
Reading some of the shit Destiny and his orbiters (and even Max himself at times) said to and about other people was an entirely different experience than listening along. Revealed a lot of cruelty that would otherwise be hidden by the fast pace and laughing encouragement from others in the conversation.
It also revealed the absurdity in some of Destiny’s arguments, especially re: Fuentes. In live conversation, everything always moves forward. Every time someone gets their turn to talk, they have the opportunity to bulldoze ahead and retroactively erase everything that was said prior. When it’s all recorded and printed and laid out in plain English, not only CAN you go back and forth at will, it’s almost impossible NOT to encounter confusion and immediately scroll up to see if what is being said contradicts something said previously.
All this to say, good job. I’m glad I mustered the energy to get through it all. Despite its length, there really isn’t much fat that could’ve been cut.
Mr. Girl I think you would understand ethics if you played fallout new vegas the politics in that game are very deep. I think the NCR are the good guys.
Any journalist/reader that sees this should really look into the highly unethical process that this piece was written, and keep in mind the incredible amount of bias that this piece is laden with. So many interpretations either skew the truth or are outright false representations of the facts, and there are multiple alleged victims written about in this piece that have either never given consent to be written about (like Ana) or have come out stating Max Karson has misrepresented their story immensely (like WhiteNervosa).
I started following this Shit 2 months ago….. for this pile of dog shit…. What.the.fuck…. It kinda sounds like you’re just a little bitch about getting banned and so you found some people who don’t like destiny… This bullshit about he had sex with a consenting adult but somehow it needs to be more than that is disgusting. Grow up and stop calling adults your daughter… I literally threw up in my mouth and got cancer hearing that.
Are you still friends with that girl you called ‘your daughter’ . Lav I think her name is.. how often do you speak to her?
Would have been good if you actually spoke your mind on this rather than just providing a bunch of transcripts.
Your personal thoughts throughout the piece would have gone far in creating a strong narrative for your case.
Fucking Trash!!!!
This guy fucks small children and dolls while also he rapes his so called partner it’s all openly documented on various streams he should be doxxed without mercy 🖕🏻
You keep talking about 'power dynamics' in the context about Mr. Bonnell's influence over your career and your and other orbiter's financial dependence to Mr. Bonnell's streaming career and I have a question:
The financial dependence you purport to have to Mr. Bonnell, why does it exist? Are you not an adult who is:
1. An influencer who has an independent audience who is able to grow that audience by your own power and thus not dependent on anyone else to grow the aforementioned audience.
and
2. A person who is able to secure multiple streams of income through both streaming and non-streaming work as well as the merchandise you sell on your platform.
I mean, sure, without Mr. Bonnell's influence in your content you might not grow as fast as you would with him but you would still grow both as an influencer and streamer and it would do nothing to the income from merch but I don't think even you would say that losing your relationship with Mr. Bonnell's sphere of influence has "cut off" any streams of income per se.
I think it may have reduced the amount of income and how fast that amount grows over time but I don't think anyone thinks that your income has dropped from X number to zero.
The power dynamic you're talking about seems to be, to me, based on the size of Mr. Bonnell's fanbase and the influence it exerted on your career as a streamer. It only exists on the basis of your financial dependence on Mr. Bonnell but you have not in any way explained why you would be unable to secure a separate stream of income from, say, a regular 9-to-5 job or your self-purported rap career, not to mention your merchandise sales.
I don't understand how you are or could be financially dependent on someone and unable to pay your bills / rent if you have all these options as far as income goes. You might not be able to live in luxury or have as easy a job outside that sphere but you wouldn't starve or be unable to pay for rent or other basic necessities such as food, water, shelter, and (if you live in America) insurance.
If any of these points make sense to I would love your input so as to further our collective understanding of your positions on this topic.
All the best,
R
I am working on a response to this. Would love to talk to you privately some time, as I have many questions. You’re a very interesting person.
It's just amazing how you spent this much time creating a huge nothing-burger of a 100,000 word novel about a streamer, because you got banned from his subreddit.
I hope in a few years you can look back at this document and realize that you put this much effort into creating a document that 100% ruined your career propper.
You had some good and original stuff going in your career, but for some reason ended up throwing it all away to help your compulsive lier friend instead of just ditching her, and got the wild idea to spend 4 MONTHS (maybe more??) of your life writing this.
There is NO new information here. After all your time spent on "research" and "interviews". Where you promised to include all things said about Destiny, good and bad. This is just a huge wall of text containing transcripts of videos that anyone who has followed this shitshow has already seen, with some "edgy Max narration" added for dramatic effect.
The post article drop interviews you've been streaming also reinforces this, and your complete ineptitude of taking criticism.
Waste of time for you to make, and waste of time for anyone to read. A solid 0/100.
Good job.
"'Goodnight princess, good morning princess,' really? I'm misrepresenting the relationship? Remember all the things you told me about Melina? …I've been fucking protecting you, I've been protecting you, I've been protecting you from lying to Melina, how fucking dare you? If you're gonna do this shit, then I'm leaking it all. I'm not protecting your lying ass anymore." Along with the amount of times she followed him around to multiple platforms after him trying to clearly cut ties with her and even going as far as having to block her. On top of him giving in and continuing to talk to her just for her to non-stop ask for him to fix her public persona so she can have a career built around him. From personal experience and that of countless others you can find she's clearly an abusive woman. I don't care who's side you're on there's no way of painting Destiny as abusive to this girl unless you're actually braindead or on a false crusade. Article is practically useless since the only source actually given publicly about this whole thing is that of an abusive unstable manipulating woman.
I did not read the article in full, and relied on other streamers reacting to parts of it. Originally, the pattern of power abuse didn't resonate with me. I felt that a streamer, however innocent, would have had plenty of regrettable interactions over the years, and that such a document could have been written about any content creator.
However, the recent egg throwing incident got me thinking about the article. Destiny was obviously abusive, unapologetic and even justified it to his large audience. Thank you, MrGirl. Without your article I would not have seen that incident through an abusive lens.
Mrgirl is faced with a dilemma when it comes to including sources. The audience wants/needs sources to verify his claims, but mrgirl openly refuses to make them public because he doesn't want the audience to see/hear the full context for themselves. He knows that if he releases the sources for people to see/hear for themselves, he would just giving people direct proof that he isn't a credible person. If giving sources discredits your narrative, then your narrative is flawed.
He does not want people to fact check. He would much rather not include sources and have people UNSURE If he's credible, than include sources and give proof that he's not credible. This is why he is only giving sources to select individuals.
Mrgirl says he ONLY wants people to read the words he has personally selected, nothing more. In mrgirls mind, it doesn't matter if people say something as a reference because they are making fun of an idea, vs saying something in ernest because they truly believe the idea. Maybe he doesn't always believe this, but right now, while it's most convenient, he does.
Mrgirl discredited and dodged genuine questions about his incredibly flawed "investigation" with one sentence: "just wait for the fucking article" now that the article is out, rather than finally answer to legitimate questions that are pertinent to his credibility, he struggles to find reasons to discredit anyone with questions aside from (you're brainwashed by destiny). His bubble and worldview is going to get smaller and smaller and smaller as he continuously is forced to adjust his beliefs in order to avoid facing his faults.
Conveniently, the faults he does currently accept, are the "faults" that he believes give credibility to his article "I admit, I have done something bad. I too once played a roll and participated in the abusive, corrupt system that destiny has built. Me calling those women bitches was me participating in destiny's system....which I am now heroically exposing".
MrGirl is one of the most flawed individual's I've ever seen. He will discredit all of this, by assuming I'm a "DG'er."
This is so dumb and no one is going to read it. Stop being a loser and a pedophile Max.
Before reading, I thought I agreed with the criticism that it was too long and shouldn’t have been text-based. I wanted something easily digestible, a video essay I could passively absorb. But damn.
Reading some of the shit Destiny and his orbiters (and even Max himself at times) said to and about other people was an entirely different experience than listening along. Revealed a lot of cruelty that would otherwise be hidden by the fast pace and laughing encouragement from others in the conversation.
It also revealed the absurdity in some of Destiny’s arguments, especially re: Fuentes. In live conversation, everything always moves forward. Every time someone gets their turn to talk, they have the opportunity to bulldoze ahead and retroactively erase everything that was said prior. When it’s all recorded and printed and laid out in plain English, not only CAN you go back and forth at will, it’s almost impossible NOT to encounter confusion and immediately scroll up to see if what is being said contradicts something said previously.
All this to say, good job. I’m glad I mustered the energy to get through it all. Despite its length, there really isn’t much fat that could’ve been cut.
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Mr. Girl I think you would understand ethics if you played fallout new vegas the politics in that game are very deep. I think the NCR are the good guys.
Any journalist/reader that sees this should really look into the highly unethical process that this piece was written, and keep in mind the incredible amount of bias that this piece is laden with. So many interpretations either skew the truth or are outright false representations of the facts, and there are multiple alleged victims written about in this piece that have either never given consent to be written about (like Ana) or have come out stating Max Karson has misrepresented their story immensely (like WhiteNervosa).
Destiny is a nightmare in some ways, for sure. But Max is addicted to lying.
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I would literally rather kill myself than read this dogshit epic.